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Today’s world is rife with risk—be it a global pandemic as we experienced in 2020 or the steady churn of uncertainty that permeates both business and life. In their new book RISK: A User’s Guide, coauthors General Stanley McChrystal and Anna Butrico argue that we must develop both an interface for dealing with risk and an appetite for action. On the podcast this episode, we discuss everything from assessing risk to the need for leadership in a changing world, and the fact that you can fail without being a failure.

General Stanley McChrystalÌýretired in July 2010 as a four-star general in the U.S. Army. His last assignment was as the commander of the International Security Assistance Force and as the commander of the U.S. forces in Afghanistan. He had previously served as the director of the Joint Staff and as the commander of the Joint Special Operations Command. The author ofÌýMy Share of the Task,ÌýTeam of Teams, andÌýLeaders, he is currently a senior fellow at Yale University's Jackson Institute for Global Affairs and the cofounder of the McChrystal Group, a leadership consulting firm.

Anna Butrico graduated from Vanderbilt University with a degree in English after spending time at University of Oxford, St. Anne’s College. She joined McChrystal Group in 2018, where she has advised Fortune 100 companies and served as General (Ret.) Stan McChrystal’s speechwriter. This is her first book.Ìý